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		<title>Fiero Power Window Express Down Mod Correction. ***</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 13:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ChuckRock</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>After several attempts to complete he window express down mod as listed in the newsletter and not being able to get it to work, I decided to find out what was going on. I found that the Ford uses a power window switch that grounds both window wires when it is in the off <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://myfiero.oceanmoon.com/how-to/electrical/window/fiero-power-window-express-down-mod-correction-2">Fiero Power Window Express Down Mod Correction. ***</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- Start Shareaholic LikeButtonSetTop --><!-- End Shareaholic LikeButtonSetTop --><p>After several attempts to complete he window express down mod as listed in the newsletter and not being able to get it to work, I decided to find out what was going on. I found that the Ford uses a power window switch that grounds both window wires when it is in the off position while the Fiero leaves these wires open. After some head scratching I figured out how to make everything work using two 5 prong relays I bought at Bumper to Bumper Auto for 5 bucks each. I have added a diagram to show the new wiring for the express module and the relays.<br />
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<ul>
<li>Notice that the wire from the window motor up terminal (Brown) and from terminal 4 (yellow wire) on the express relay go to the normally closed terminal on relay one.</li>
<li>The wire from the window motor down terminal (Blue) goes to on the express relay terminal 1 (red wire)</li>
<li>Express relay terminal 5 (black wire) goes to the normally closed terminal on relay two</li>
<li>The wires from the switch up (Brown) go to the normally open and to one of the coil terminals on relay one</li>
<li>The wires from the switch down (Blue) go to the normally open and to one of the coil terminals on relay two</li>
<li>The common terminal goes to ground and to the other coil terminal on both relays one and two.</li>
<li>The wire from terminal 3 on the express relay goes to power with key on</li>
</ul>
<p>
Fiero power window express down mod</p>
<p>A little information about the module used for this mod:</p>
<p>To the best of my knowledge and experience in the junkyard, these modules were only used in generation 2<br />
Taurus/Sable and Explorer vehicles. They can be found inside the driver door skin, mounted underneath the armrest support. The Ford part number for the module is: F2DB-14B118-AB. I have heard that the dealer price for these modules is around $50, but if you grab a handful of them and tell the junkyard guy that they’re just window relays, you’ll get better treatment. If you’re cutting it out of a junkyard car, of course you want to get as much of the harness wiring as possible.</p>
<p>And now for the installation information:</p>
<p>There are five wires coming off of the express down module. They are as follows:</p>
<ol>
<li>Motor side of down wire (red)</li>
<li>Switch side of down wire (white/black)</li>
<li>- +12V (blue/black)</li>
<li>Up wire (yellow)</li>
<li>Ground (black)</li>
</ol>
<p>If you remove the module from the harness connector, you will be able to see the numbers stamped into the plastic.</p>
<p>For the switch to which you want to connect the module, use a meter or test light to identify:</p>
<ul>
<li>Keyed +12V wire</li>
<li>Ground wire</li>
<li>The wire that goes to +12V when you press up</li>
<li>The wire that goes to +12V when you press down</li>
</ul>
<p>Here are the connections that must now be made:</p>
<p>Use an inline spice to connect module #3 to the keyed +12V source.<br />
Use an inline splice to connect module #4 to the up wire<br />
Use an inline splice to connect module #5 to the ground</p>
<p>Cut the down wire, leaving you enough room to butt splice each end. Connect module #1 to the electric motor side of this wire. Connect module #2 to the switch side of this wire.</p>
<p>
At this point, all of the electrical connections have been made. All that is left to you is to reassemble everything and fasten the module so that it doesn’t rattle.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 13:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ChuckRock</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p style="font-size: small; font-weight: bold; color: #fe000a; text-align: center;">SEE &#8220;Fiero Power Window Express Down Mod Correction. ***&#8221; BEFORE STARTING</p> <p>A little information about the module used for this mod:</p> <p>To the best of my knowledge and experience in the junkyard, these modules were only used in generation 2 Taurus/Sable and Explorer vehicles. They can <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://myfiero.oceanmoon.com/how-to/electrical/window/fiero-power-window-express-down-mod-2">Fiero Power Window Express Down Mod</a></span>]]></description>
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<p>A little information about the module used for this mod:</p>
<p>To the best of my knowledge and experience in the junkyard, these modules were only used in generation 2 Taurus/Sable and Explorer vehicles. They can be found inside the driver door skin, mounted underneath the armrest support. The Ford part number for the module is: F2DB-14B118-AB. I have heard that the dealer price for these modules is around $50, but if you grab a handful of them and tell the junkyard guy that they’re just window relays, you’ll get better treatment. If you’re cutting it out of a junkyard car, of course you want to get as much of the harness wiring as possible.<br />
 And now for the installation information:</p>
<p>There are five wires coming off of the express down module. They are as follows:</p>
<ol>
<li>Motor side of down wire (red)</li>
<li>Switch side of down wire (white/black)</li>
<li>- +12V (blue/black)</li>
<li>Up wire (yellow)</li>
<li>Ground (black)</li>
</ol>
<p>If you remove the module from the harness connector, you will be able to see the numbers stamped into the plastic.</p>
<p>For the switch to which you want to connect the module, use a meter or test light to identify:</p>
<ul style="list-style-type: disc;">
<li>Keyed +12V wire</li>
<li>Ground wire</li>
<li>The wire that goes to +12V when you press up</li>
<li>The wire that goes to +12V when you press down</li>
</ul>
<p>Here are the connections that must now be made:</p>
<p>Use an inline spice to connect module #3 to the keyed +12V source.</p>
<p>Use an inline splice to connect module #4 to the up wire.</p>
<p>Use an inline splice to connect module #5 to the ground.</p>
<p>Cut the down wire, leaving you enough room to butt splice each end. Connect module #1 to the electric motor side of this wire. Connect module #2 to the switch side of this wire.</p>
<p>At this point, all of the electrical connections have been made. All that is left to you is to reassemble everything and fasten the module so that it doesn’t rattle.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ChuckRock</dc:creator>
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<p>Fiero power window express down mod correction.</p>
<p>After several attempts to complete he window express down mod as listed in the newsletter and not being able to get it to work, I decided to find out what was going on. I found that the Ford uses a power window switch that grounds both window wires when it is in the off position while the Fiero leaves these wires open. After some head scratching I figured out how to make everything work using two 5 prong relays I bought at Bumper to Bumper Auto for 5 bucks each. I have added a diagram to show the new wiring for the express module and the relays.</p>
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<p>Notice that the wire from the window motor up terminal (Brown) and from terminal 4 (yellow wire) on the express relay go to the normally closed terminal on relay one</p>
<p>The wire from the window motor down terminal (Blue) goes to on the express relay terminal 1 (red wire)</p>
<p>Express relay terminal 5 (black wire) goes to the normally closed terminal on relay two</p>
<p>The wires from the switch up (Brown) go to the normally open and to one of the coil terminals on relay one</p>
<p>The wires from the switch down (Blue) go to the normally open and to one of the coil terminals on relay two</p>
<p>The common terminal goes to ground and to the other coil terminal on both relays one and two.</p>
<p>The wire from terminal 3 on the express relay goes to power with key on</p>
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<p>Fiero power window express down mod</p>
<p>A little information about the module used for this mod:</p>
<p>To the best of my knowledge and experience in the junkyard, these modules were only used in generation 2</p>
<p>Taurus/Sable and Explorer vehicles. They can be found inside the driver door skin, mounted underneath the armrest</p>
<p>support. The Ford part number for the module is: F2DB-14B118-AB. I have heard that the dealer price for these</p>
<p>modules is around $50, but if you grab a handful of them and tell the junkyard guy that they&#8217;re just window relays,</p>
<p>you&#8217;ll get better treatment. If you&#8217;re cutting it out of a junkyard car, of course you want to get as much of the harness</p>
<p>wiring as possible.</p>
<p>And now for the installation information:</p>
<p>There are five wires coming off of the express down module. They are as follows:</p>
<p>1 Motor side of down wire (red)</p>
<p>2 Switch side of down wire (white/black)</p>
<p>3 &#8211; +12V (blue/black)</p>
<p>4 Up wire (yellow)</p>
<p>5 Ground (black)</p>
<p>If you remove the module from the harness connector, you will be able to see the numbers stamped into the plastic.</p>
<p>For the switch to which you want to connect the module, use a meter or test light to identify:</p>
<p>- Keyed +12V wire</p>
<p>- Ground wire</p>
<p>- The wire that goes to +12V when you press up</p>
<p>- The wire that goes to +12V when you press down</p>
<p>Here are the connections that must now be made:</p>
<p>Use an inline spice to connect module #3 to the keyed +12V source.</p>
<p>Use an inline splice to connect module #4 to the up wire</p>
<p>Use an inline splice to connect module #5 to the ground</p>
<p>Cut the down wire, leaving you enough room to butt splice each end. Connect module #1 to the electric motor side of</p>
<p>this wire. Connect module #2 to the switch side of this wire.</p>
<p>At this point, all of the electrical connections have been made. All that is left to you is to reassemble everything and</p>
<p>fasten the module so that it doesn&#8217;t rattle.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p> </p> Fiero  power window express down mod <p></p> <p>A little information about the module used for this mod:</p> <p>To the best of my knowledge and experience in the junkyard, these modules were only used in generation 2 Taurus/Sable and Explorer vehicles. They can be found inside the driver door skin, mounted underneath the <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://myfiero.oceanmoon.com/how-to/electrical/window/fiero-power-window-express-down-mod">Fiero Power Window Express Down Mod</a></span>]]></description>
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<p>A little information about the module used for this mod:</p>
<p>To the best of my knowledge and experience in the junkyard, these modules were only used in generation 2 Taurus/Sable and Explorer vehicles. They can be found inside the driver door skin, mounted underneath the armrest support. The Ford part number for the module is: F2DB-14B118-AB. I have heard that the dealer price for these modules is around $50, but if you grab a handful of them and tell the junkyard guy that they&#8217;re just window relays, you&#8217;ll get better treatment. If you&#8217;re cutting it out of a junkyard car, of course you want to get as much of the harness wiring as possible.</p>
<p>And now for the installation information:</p>
<p>There are five wires coming off of the express down module. They are as follows:</p>
<p>1 Motor side of down wire (red)</p>
<p>2 Switch side of down wire (white/black)</p>
<p>3 &#8211; +12V (blue/black)</p>
<p>4 Up wire (yellow)</p>
<p>5 Ground (black)</p>
<p>If you remove the module from the harness connector, you will be able to see the numbers stamped into the plastic.</p>
<p>For the switch to which you want to connect the module, use a meter or test light to identify:</p>
<p>- Keyed +12V wire</p>
<p>- Ground wire</p>
<p>- The wire that goes to +12V when you press up</p>
<p>- The wire that goes to +12V when you press down</p>
<p>Here are the connections that must now be made:</p>
<p>Use an inline spice to connect module #3 to the keyed +12V source.</p>
<p>Use an inline splice to connect module #4 to the up wire</p>
<p>Use an inline splice to connect module #5 to the ground</p>
<p>Cut the down wire, leaving you enough room to butt splice each end. Connect module #1 to the electric motor side of this wire. Connect module #2 to the switch side of this wire.</p>
<p>At this point, all of the electrical connections have been made. All that is left to you is to reassemble everything and fasten the module so that it doesn&#8217;t rattle.</p>
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